Association for Provocative Therapy

Nick's First PT Session with Frank Farrelly

Frank

Nick

Alright do we have our contract? Good Okey dokey - Nick? Yes I have guy, that I, a number of businesses I work with and one of them I have a guy I work with which absolutely drives me crazy because our ways of operating are so different and he what he tends, he um set up a business and how he tends to work in relation to the business is often very reactive or procrastinates horrendously so we don't seem to find any middle ground in anything.
So you have to things his way. Well that means the company doesn't progress in any particular useful direction
Well whose company is it? Both
Well who got there firstest with the mostest
Ah well that would be him
Him, you're both equal so whose more equal than whom
Well that depends on ability or whether there is
Oh fuck ability it depends on who gets his way more frequent
it's about even
Well who gets whom to do more work than whom?
Well I don't know, we do different bits in the company
yeah yeah yeah who gets whom to do more work than whom
I, I get to do more work
Well that's wonderful who gets how do we split the money that whom earns when who is not there? Or is it 50/50?
it's not strictly 50/50 because he works less hours than I do so proportionally he gets more than I would get
Alright, say suppose he works 45% of the time and you work 55% or whatever but he doesn't just get 55% he gets more well cleaver him he's got a sucker on the string
Well I mean I have the benefit of having whatever flexibility I want which allows me to do other things
Alright flexibility costs
yeah
yeah, OK so while you're paying for flexibility he gets paid for procrastination I mean I think it's just the guy tell him congratulations from me for finding a sucker like you
Well yeah I'll pass that on
Well yeah
Mmmmmm
yeah that's the way it is a lot of times in business you think bottom line lies na there are a lot of other goodies and perks, and you know bottom line lies etc you know, and I get paid more because I work longer hours exactly to the he works 37.5% and you work da da da 52 or 57.5% and you get exactly no and it's half and half and guess who gets better on this split
right
Well it's not so much the financial side it's more the frustration that the decisions that are made tend to impact just makes life a lot harder in terms of being
For you
And for the business as well
Well alright but he still procrastinates He has two ways of behaving completely reactive or total procrastination
Alright either way the guy sounds like a winner you know as long as he has you on board, eeeeeeeee, sits back and smiles took me a while but I've got old Nicky going ha ha. yeah
That's actually quite accurate
Well what do you know about that I guess I got quite lucky
OK
Or something
I mean If I look to influence him he sees it as being a personal attack
Exactly, which it is well lets not say I look to influence him. You try a little arm twisting you try a little you know stick of cherry bomb up his rear end and you know etc it doesn't makes him go faster just probably slows him down more ha ha ha ha god these stubborn types and procrastinators dither you know. Mr dithers. yeah. Are you a forge ahead kind of guy just get these things done digital, sequential, logical rational, oh god it's just like shooting fish in a barrel with a shoot gun I mean you ought to feel
guilty the way you're so easy tell him I said so
Yep OK
I mean dealing with you and handling you and getting making you more faster by moving slower for him it's just so easy I mean how many years has he been doing this to you
it's been about 7 years
Oh shit he's probably got it down to an art form you know. I know I can't answer that, do you realize we have to get this thing out, by Thursday, last Thursday, well it's somewhere did I give it, no you didn't Looking through stuff. Oh Jesus. Oh sets the teeth on edge of a poor soul who wants to progress because time is scheduled and we're gonna get this done on the schedule, on Tuesday we get this done and you get this all the time? Oh Jesus he can just drop one wrench after or spanner in the gears and sit back and just laugh up his sleeve just watching you jumping around trying to well the guys got his entertainment built in
That's true
Well that's you, so well what's the problem The problem is I have too much invested in the business to walk away from it but
How much
7 years worth of work

How much

Well
Don't give me well, well is a whole in the ground how much
Well I have a 30% stock share in the business
Which is how much
Probably 50/60,000
Ok alright
Yes but worth having
Well yeah It's a little teeny tiny best pocket company OK, alright how much has he got invested
A bit more than that
Alright so he gets to make you dance, he invested more so you provide the entertainment you know
OK but I get to be able to do a lot of other things
Well alright so he allows you to you know play around with this go fiddle with that OK you probably think this is really good a good bargain or something
Well it's good to have the flexibility to be able to set up and run other things which are probably more long term viable
yeah alright but one of these days you're gonna really make some money out of this or something or what
Well we're already making money out of other things
Alright you gonna have some prestige or some of those good professional goodies gonna come flowing in or something
yeah
Alright then he sort of by well if were if he didn't dither or procrastinate
then he might interfere with you making something out of these other
Things
yeah yeah
Tell him we thank him
Mmmmm
it's so paradoxical but the very you know arsehole son of a bitch drives some people to it turns out that they actually should be thanked. Reincarnations said well you two were together before an stuff like that and he was the straight guy and you were the arsehole OK well so now lets switch this bye bye I'll be the straight guy and you be the arsehole OK if that's the way you want it whatever I can do to help your soul involvement I'll just set your teeth on edge til you eeeeeeee hooray reincarnation ally the guy is owed a world of thanks by you
OK
Well some would say. The next time he's acting like a totally arsehole an dithering and you know and delaying and procrastinating you can just come in does he have an office?
Well we're all in the same office
Well alright you can just shout across the stacks of papers that need to be gotten out but aren't getting anywhere cos he just hold onto them
or he can't locate anything cos he just so dam disorganized and say you can just take your reincarnational
contract and shove it up your arse where the sun doesn't shine you know what huh. you know well you told him you know that kind of thing
Well that might work
Huh yeah what contract I didn't make any contract, yeah, reincarnationally you did well or something like that. it's just such a delicious feeling being right. Well what you wouldn't know that but I'm here to tell you.

How old are you
45
Do you ever think, god well how did I ever get hooked up with this dildo I don't? Do you ever think
yeah
Well how did you ever with the dildo I hate to bring this up
We are we were friends previously and er
You're not talking previously incarnated are you you just mean before you started the business
yeah he asked me to help out basically
Help out yeah so I have other business as well so I just work there part time
yeah And things developed from that
And you probably thought well he's
taking me more and more into his business and things are going so well I'm gonna have da da now I have a certain amount invested in this and congratulate yourself on how well you were doing and he did and he was taking you in, good ole buddy you know yeah then you started changing your tune you were humming to yourself about him
Well he did suggest maybe that I
bought his share of the business for 200,000 cash which didn't go down too well
No cos you didn't have the 200,000 or you didn't want the whole business or both
Yes both
yeah yeah so whats the problem you know he had a business which you didn't want you know and here he's being such a burr up your arse he's getting you moving you know. And he dithers and you know some disorganized or whatever and then here you which makes you more focused, , organized, digital, sequential problem solving just yeah which really cranks up your problem solving ability or energy levels or whatever the fuck you know and he goes into his inertia routine yeah yeah yeah that's very true
Epitomizes Newtons what is it second, third or whatever the laws on motion the body keeps doing whatever the body's been doing if somebody doesn't come along and interact with that
body and punch him in the or whatever, whatever

So what's the problem? I mean lucky you you know to get an irritant like this just cranking you up you know.
Well I can see it like that but I still find it very frustrating
Well of course because you'd like to think that you shouldn't need a burr up your butt and on it to have to get started. Well some guys do they just do they want aw one of those burrs in their arsehole or they'll just sit around. I thought this was supposed to be out of here Thursday, well it was. Well what's the fuck it still doing here on your desk. I thought it should have been on my. Well I wanted to get around to looking at it to see you know if the grammar was right cos you know he wrote it he's grammar is just god awful. Checking for spelling, look at this right here well I don't know if it's a typo or spelling ughhhhh look theres another on page 3 too. Do you ever get someone elses teeth on edge you know
Do I get someone
yeah like some customer coming in and saying wheres the report on dada da you know
Not usually
Well alright do you ever explain that my partner is a little bit ha how can I
say it ufus doofus and I dither whither and a
Oh yeah yeah that's the kind of thing
Ah that's why I mean I or me you know me I would have be in there like a shoot and I would have had that thing 5 days earlier on your desk but I'm carrying the lead weight around because of some reincarnational debt that I don't know, what I don't want to know this crap this meta physical horseshit just get me the god dam report you know

So whats the problem you know if you just crank it up a bit more get those things out what Well the problem is well the problem is for me is that every time I think about the situation it just drives me nuts.
Well alright you can go nuts but get the god damm paperwork out you just sit their with just your teeth crunching those dental bills going on your dentist. You've got to relax I mean you're just gonna have mastoiditus or whatever the fuck you know or lock jaw I tell you permanent lockjaw. You go yeah well if you had to work with that prick my so called partner you'd get lock jaw too you know. Well boy he sure sets a fire in your arse What - it's almost like magic isn't it what did he do nothing. That could start a fire in a guys arse right real fast
OK
Oh shit



You got pressures you know you're your deadlines, pressures customers who want this by such an such at the latest kind of thingey and you always add an extra month in for the lead weight. Oh I think I should be able to get oh I say hows September 1, September 1 yeah but I've got to factor in the lead weight in Mr Inertia, Jesus and you factor in time ahead of time for that
yeah
See what see you're adapting to him that's really great What
I'm not sure that's really great
Well I mean it shows your adaptive capacities you know are flexible enough you know and your jaw is totally clenched you can still be flexible that that's multi tasking. Daaaa you know and still be flexible
That's good news then
Well for him I wouldn't say it's good news for you ha ha ha yeah dam I tell you all this stuff for productivity and constructivity and positive and you know and do it yourself movement and all this happy horseshit how about lets somebody else do it I mean shovel the load on somebody else you know if you
just stay green on your load well you just get a buddy you can just lean all over. You know and let him. Some guys don't have the brains that god
gave a turnip but if you lean on them they grunt and work harder instead of just collapse which any smart enough guy would do. Only lean on me then splat down they go hey what the fuck I'm leaning on your for support and you just collapse like a read in a hurricane hey baby that's just me I'm not gonna be your stalwart pillar of strength. I've got enough just carrying my load let alone half of yours too. Huh have you estimated how much of his load you are carrying.
A lot of it.
A lot of it how much
About 80%
80% of his plus 100% of yours that's 180% god dam that guy sounds brighter and brighter to me. Oh you cleaver little shit boy. Man just tell him I send my admiration.
I will yeah
yeah. A guy like that can be a captain of industry a CEO just start delegating not by sending out typed memos and stuff like that just kind of leaning, collapsing, dithering man I don't know why we have him for a CEO he just does nothing yes but it's the
way he does nothing. WOW Some people can do something and it's not as much as somebody else doing nothing and even being late in doing nothing you think well his nothing but hes on
time. Ha ha god dam. A thing of beauty is a joy for ever. Some poet wrote that. Well it's a beautiful thing isn't it. Well we've been partners in business for - how many years?
7
Seven years god almighty do you think if you could have seen looked ahead and seen if you could have thought it back then that you could have tolerated something like this for 7 years.
Mmmm
Say no
No
No. How many more multiples of 7 do you think you could
No not more less than one multiple
Ahhhh
I have contingency plans you see
Contingency, smengency how about 7, 14, 21
No
After a while you know you start to say well all businesses this way 100% 180% not exactly you get used to being his water boy his sharper
Sherper

Lugged it up the shit I climbed it just cos it was there No 1 and No 2 I had all these dum comfs there lugging the load

Less than 7
Less than 7, come on boy, 6 years 11 months I'm outa here aw come on by this time you can do it as natural as breathing. You got this no oh no never mind I'll do it you do it you cover up for him you polish it up you do the OK alright. Bear yee one another's burdens wrote St Peter and thus fulfil the law of Christ. Carry each others burdens well some lazy arsehole says hey I like it I like it DUM see what I mean I'm just practicing Christianity. Ha ha load it on Nick aha. And there's always some sucker around in any group or organization yeah I can do it ask a busy man. Anyone else will say oh I don't have time for that. You ask a busy man. Are you busy?
yeah I'm pretty busy
Oh OK so what do you do you don't give it to the guy just picking his nose you give it to the busy guy. The busy guy likes to be busy he likes to have goals pressure and time tables he likes to get things done. He likes that. People think why I don't know but the more I dump on him the better he treats me. Ha ha yeah I
mean you think where the fuck is the rhyme or reason to this well there isn't and. it's just busy guys and inertia guys there a real pair - balance. yeah
Ha ha
What yeah
OK
Mr Inner meet Mr you know Busy. Well I'm' certain happy to meet we should be partners. You get 50% of the income and do 180% of the work around here. I think it's marvelous. How the hell did he, I know he just snuck it past you whilst you were being busy. I don't know I'm just so busy I just don't notice some of these things till it was too late.
Basically yeah
It's a joyful thing to see things going on you know got the administrative flow chart you know and it turns out that some secretary four levels down is keeping the whole fucking company you know going right for you
Ha ha
So Nicky Wicky did you have any reactions to any of this

yeah



Mmmmm
yeah at one point complete confusion where I was thinking what the hell was going on.
Frustration with the situation but also at the same time seeing that my frustration was my reaction to the whole thing.
I also found it quite amusing at the same time but I just felt myself sort of being drawn in to what you were saying. And part of me was looking to anticipate what was happening and part of me was thinking what on earth is going on.
yeah I'm trying to anticipate but I can't figure out what the fuck is going on
yeah
Well that can interfere with a persons anticipatory response reactions
Well there was one point where I had not idea what I had started off talking about
Well you can cure your mistake on that by the tape you know how the fuck we got to talking about this. Any other reactions
I feel a bit spaced out by our discussions
Well it sounds like a pretty spacey business partnership so you're entitled you know what I mean. yeah
Well if you think of anything else let me know.